This description of day labor in Uptown in the 1960s is from a book written by two student activists who came to Uptown to create a grassroots movement with the poor. They interviewed Uptown residents and recorded their accounts over a period of about a year.  Rather than “correcting” his language for the written page, the authors chose to reproduce it as closely as possible in order to keep Mr. Dawson’s voice as alive and accurate as possible.

 

 

Photo: Amelia D’Entrone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Dawson on what southern migrants found when they came to Chicago

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Dawson on how it is hard not to get discouraged

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Dawson on unequal pay for similar work

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Dawson on doing “dirty work”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Dawson on why he decided to fight with JOIN and demand jobs & income for the people of Uptown

John Dawson on

 Day Labor in Uptown

Circa 1964

 

 

 

 

 

Some a these labor companies thinks your’re a dog a some kind, just think you’re a straight dog workin’.  They’ll say, “Good God, you can work for that price out here and look at the money you’re makin me, and I’ll just put all this dirty work on you.”  I mean some a them jobs you’re doin work that the regular employees won’t even think about doin.  They will work these people at a dollar-twenty-five an hour, they’re getting union scale from these plants.

 

Say for instance that you go on a job and you’re gettin a dollar and a quarter and the cheapest they’re workin you is for two dollars.  They’ve made seventy-five cents on each hour’s work that you work every day.  That’s pretty good interest, settin on your settin down place all day long. 

 

Say these jobs are payin two and a half or three dollars an hour, they’re makin a killin.  The people should get their decent wage out of it.  That’s the way I feel about that, about somebody settin down there and drawin it.  Why should we work for those offices that are makin that money and takin our money away from our families and then they holler poverty and poverty and poverty---what the hell do they expect the people to be on?  Poverty, that’s what they’re gonna get.  They’re the ones smoking the cigars and drinkin all the good moonshine whiskey.  We’re the men doin the work. 

 

They’s a poor class of people that come to Chicago and come to different cities like Detroit, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, and places like this that they thought that when they got there that they could just walk in and get a job of work that would pay em big money, but places like these slave labor markets hurt a lot of those people tryin to make a decent living for their families.  There’s a lot of people that comes here with a family and they find out they can’t get a job where they can make a livin and don’t have enough money to pay for theirselves.  All right, they hop over here and they think, “Well, I can make a living in this place here,” and they don’t know that the place is only paying one-twenty-five, one-thirty an hour till they get out there.  Well, in fact they wind up with about a dollar an hour when they get off their job.  They cain’t feed their family.  Well, they get the attitude, the hell with it, and that the cause of a lot of people from the South that just don’t give a damn.

 

There ain’t no better guy in the world than Leon Teel, no better, freer-hearted guy, do anything in the world for anyone, but when he goes out and works a couple of them days and knows he can’t get a good job, he gets dishearted about working all day and then not getting nothing for it.  Especially go out on one of these jobs and you’re doin the job right along with this guy, the guy’gettin say three dollars an hour and you’re gettin one-twenty-five, one-thirty.  Well, you say, the devil, you work out there two days and you got ten dollars and look what that damn guy’s got!  You’re doin  the same work or maybe even doin more work than he’s doin.  He’ll come in, say, “The hell with it, I ain’t going back tomorrow.”  Disgusted with it.  And he won’t go back, he’ll get drunk and won’t go back…

 

It wasn’t like it is back home.  Most of the class back home, you walk in a plant whether they know you or not and if they give you a job you can explain to the personnel manager that you had to have some money at the end of the week or had to have some money the next day after you work. Well, he would make arrangements for you to get money to live on till you drawed a payday.  Well, these plants here won’t do that, for they’ve got this cutthroat with these slave-labor markets here, they get their labor to them much cheaper.

 

 

There’s none of these slave-labor market offices, daily-labor offices, will pay you time-and-a-half time or overtime unless you work forty hours at the same plant.  They’ll work you a couple of days at one plant, then they’ll transfer you over to another plant, so that’s to keep you from payin’ it.

 

The business people is so stupid, I don’t know what’s the matter with em.  If I was runnin a place a business, I wouldn’t even allow one to send me a man.  I’d go out on the street and hire me a man, say, “Come over in here, buddy, I got a full day’s wages fer you.”  I would pay union scales on that job.  That’s robbin from the poor.  They’re robbin from the poor.  I’ll say they have to be a kickback through their personnel offices.  Don’t tell me that these personnel offices, a-payin Jobs Unlimited full scale, that they’re not getting a kickback through Jobs Unlimited toget that.  Or either they’d be willin to hire you or me or whoever it is comes up ‘ere and pay them when they get off from work, full scale.

 

…There’s another thing about them.  Say you go out on a job and the damn job ain’t fit for you to be on, some dog pen, and you come back in up there, and because you didn’t do the job, or you wasn’t a kind of a dog to just do his dog work for him, he’ll tell you to not come back in his office no more, for he ain’t got more work for that kind of people.

 

One time he told me it was a clean job and we got out there and you know what we was a-handlin?  Cowhides.  Another time they sent me up to a place in Evanston, near Skokie, where they make these carbon papers for the government and they make carbon paper for people all over the country.  I had on clean, nice clean clothes.  Went up ‘ere.  Godalmighty, that blue ink was all over that place, everything, them machines just kickin it out there.  The regular employees had rubber clothes to wear.  I said to this foreman, I said, “Ain’t you got no coverhalls?” He said, “No, I can’t furnish no coverhalls for you guys out a these offices.”

 

I said, “Well, I’ll tell you what.”  I said, “You get somebody else to do your work over here.”  I said, “I ain’t foolin where the ink’s flyin all over this floor.”  I said, “Look at all these people here in these coverhalls, they look like they’s a blue wall a some kind.”

 

“Well I cain’t help you.”

 

And I said, “Well that’s good, thank you.”  I said “You can take your job and go to hell.”  I said, “I ain’t workin here like that, I ain’t got to work for a dollar twenty five an hour.”

 

Now Leon and I came back in and told em, told old Bob up there at Work for Men, and he wanted to know why we didn’t work the job, and we told him, and he said, “Well,” he said, “You’ll accept any kind of job I have in here.” So I told him, I said, “I’ll tell you what, you can go straight to hell.  I ain’t got to work for you or no other sonofabitch like you.”  I said, “You do your own jobs up there, somebody else do it.”  I said,  “I ain’t goin up there and ruin a pair of pants that I spent about seven dollars fer.”  I said, “No sir, gimme my four hours’ pay.”  I am just plain with anybody like that.

 

…And I’ll be a-fightin’ these slave markets as long as I stay in Chicago or any other city where they’re at.  I just can’t be fer such as that…I’d rather see a man make a decent wage that he can live on, just like I asked the legislator at the meeting, that why couldn’t they be a bill put in the Legislator and that passed in Illinois General Assembly and have the governor sign it, to do away with the labor offices?  Now it can be done.  I know it can be done.  And if the state of Illinois can operate one employment office that people goes and works out of on South Jefferson Street, and they get daily pay and get their full wages out a these plants, I think that the state of Illinois could set up a employment office on the North Side like that.

 

They keep hollerin povery, poverty, poverty that’s all you hear every day in the papers. Until they do away with slavery, they’ll never get shut of poverty. 

 

Excepted from:

Uptown: Poor Whites in Chicago by Todd Gitlin and Nanci Hollander. Copyright 1970.  Harper and Row Publishers.